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#55293 - Wed Sep 01 2010 18:05 PM TACP and HALO
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Today my recruiter told me that tacp guys get to do halo jump school. I thought halo was strictly for cct and pj. Is it true that tacp guys go through halo school as well?

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#55299 - Wed Sep 01 2010 21:14 PM Re: TACP and HALO [Re: esRyan]
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Some do. It is not an AFSC requirement for TACP so it depends on where they're stationed and who they are supporting. It is an AFSC requirement PJ/CCT.
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#55306 - Thu Sep 02 2010 09:38 AM Re: TACP and HALO [Re: TE]
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Some ANG ASOS units have received MFF TLNs which is an improvement from the unit funded, "continuation training" approach from a traditionally very expensive school to attend.

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#55313 - Thu Sep 02 2010 19:14 PM Re: TACP and HALO [Re: esRyan]
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Advanced Training (AT)—Formal course that provides individuals who are qualified in one or more positions of their Air Force Specialty (AFS) with additional skills and knowledge to enhance their expertise in the career field. Training is for selected career airmen at the advanced level of the AFS.

Continuation Training—Additional advanced training exceeding the minimum upgrade training requirements with emphasis on present or future duty assignments.

Level 1 (Mission Accomplishment) Requirement—[Priority Ranking System Level of Urgency] Training necessary to accomplish the day-to-day mission. In using this rating, commanders are validating training as mission essential. If Air Force cannot support the need, then unit funds will be used.

Level 2 (Mission Enhancement) Requirement—[Priority Ranking System Level of Urgency] Training required to improve mission capability.

Quota Type—A two-character code within MILPDS/OTA used to indicate the student's active duty status (i.e., airman, officer, or civilian) and the travel funding status (i.e., AETC-funded, unit-funded, or non-TDY). The particular codes are as follows:
1st Digit (Active Duty Status) 2nd Digit (Travel Funding Status)
A (airman)T (AETC-funded)
O (officer)P (unit-funded)
C (civilian)N (non-TDY)
(NOTE: The "N" funding status is usually used for NPS pipeline students, PCS-length schools 20 weeks or longer, or non-active duty Air Force users).

CFETP 1C4X1 identifies no military free fall continuation training requirement. It does identify the following:
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6.1. Initial Skills Training. The initial skills course was revised to provide training needed to prepare graduates for TACP duty positions. A continuing requirement exists for all individuals to receive combat survival training (Course S-V80-A, Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape (SERE) Training) or Air Force Career Field Manager approved equivalent. A minimum of six graduates per class require attendance at airborne training (Course L5AZA1T231-001, Airborne Parachutist, at Ft Benning, GA) to ensure the career fields ability to sustain it’s Designed Operational Capability (DOC) statement requirements to support U.S. Army airborne operations.

6.2. Five Level Upgrade Training. The 5-Level CDC is under revision to incorporate information on: Technical Orders; antenna repair; Global Area Reference System; Air Defense; Suppression of Enemy Air Defense; Electronic Warfare; Intelligence; Surveillance and Reconnaissance command and control; Air Tasking Order; Surface to Air Threats; Targeting Principles, laser target designator; infrared pointer and medivac request.

6.3. Seven Level Upgrade Training. The advanced skills course was revised to incorporate the Digital Precision Strike Suite, Airlift, assault zone operations, helicopter landing zone operations, and surface to air threats and the Global Area Reference System.


Considering also parachute positions and MFF parachutist training is subject to considerable scrutiny, getting that MFF TLN is directly connected to some unit or duty position combat capability document or mission requirement.

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AFI 11-410 Personnel Parachute Operations:

NOTE-This publication applies to all USAF organizations involved in premeditated personnel parachuting, including the Air National Guard (ANG) and the Air Force Reserve Command (AFRC).

2.9. AETC/A3T, Operations and Training Division, Director of Air, Space, and Information Operations.

2.9.1. Manage AF parachute training quotas for DoD parachute training courses in coordination with appropriate AETC/A3 offices.

3.6. Placing Members on Active Parachute Status.
Initiate aeronautical orders (AOs) IAW AFI 11-401 to place an individual on active parachute status only when required to fill a valid parachute position as defined in paragraphs 3.3. and 3.4. above, when in initial training leading to such a position, … Parachutist qualifications and status are awarded based on mission requirements and will not be used as part of an incentive or recognition program. Active parachute status is commonly referred to as jump status.


A Training Line Number (TLN) is a training allocation, it doesn’t identify who is validating it or is funding the training (MAJCOM, HQ Air Force, NGB, HQ AFRES). The validating process would require some sort of MAJCOM or unit mission readiness capability requirement.

I doubt HQ Air Force or one of its MAJCOMs (with the exception of AFSOC which means being assigned to a AFSOC unit) is funding these MFF training slots for TACP, NGB is an unlikely funding source too.

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