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#51611 - Fri Sep 25 2009 20:27 PM Cross Country Shoes
KJH Offline
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I know people talk about shoes for regular training and stuff but does anybody who runs XC or used to in High School or whatever have a shoe preference? Is it okay to practice in one pair of shoes and run races in another or should I stick to the shoes I practice in? I hear people talk about different foot-types. How do I determind what foot-type I have and what kind of shoes go best with it? Thanks in advance guys and I hope I'm not starting another redundant thread.

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#51618 - Sun Sep 27 2009 06:26 AM Re: Cross Country Shoes [Re: KJH]
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Holliday,
Most runners wear a pair of shoes for training and another for racing. Most runners have learned to run striking on their heels because most shoes tend to force you to land that way. If you watch little kids run around without shoes, you will notice they land on the pad of the foot behind the toes. If you are lucky enough to still run like that, you can get by with a much lighter shoe than if you strike on your heel.
How do you know where your foot strikes when you run? Try looking at the bottom of your current or past running shoes. You should see that a certain part is more worn down than the rest. For most of us, that is the outside edge of the heel. That pattern is called, I believe, pronation. If the wear is more towards the center outside of the heel, that is considered neutral. If the wear is on the inside edge of the heel, then it is consdidered (if I am remember the terms after all these years) supination.
You can look in "Runners World" Magazine or some of the online shoe stores like "Road Rnners Sports" and get a general discription and a sizing chart. A good running store is an even better bet. A true running shoe store's Salespeople should be able to look at your old running shoes, watch you run a few steps, and tell what kind of shoe you need.
If you are a conventional heel striker (pronator, neutral or supinator), you may be best served by having a pair of training shoes and a pair of race shoes. They don't have to be mega expensive. I always got by with some midrange trainers like the ASICS GEL 2040 (OK started with the ASICS Gel 110 back in 1989). I always raced in the lightest spikes I could find. I can't remember the name now but there are tons out there. The reason I chose spikes over racing flats is that you can put in various lengths of spikes depending on the ground condition. If the ground is soft and slippery, longer spikes. If it is hard and firm, screw in some short, flat spikes that fill the holes but don't even reach past the sole of the shoe. They just keep the holes that you screw the spikes into clean.
If you are one of the rare and lucky individuals who are POSE runners and land on the pad/ball of your foot, you should go with a much lighter shoe with considerably less heel support than the average Asics or Nike. Mizuno has a number of the "Wave" series of shoes that fill the bill. They get more expensive and considerably lighter as you go up the product line. I would not advise getting the lightest most top end versions for cross country as they are so light, they offer almost no protection for your foot and are too soft for the debris and rough stuff you find on a typical cross country run. I have the top of the line Mizuno Wave shoe and it is incredibly light but is only suitable for running on roads and maybe manicured golf courses, etc.
www.crossfitendurance.com has some advise on good trail and running shoes for POSE runners; far more than I can give.
Hope this helps.
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#51621 - Sun Sep 27 2009 18:00 PM Re: Cross Country Shoes [Re: Guard MC]
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MC you got the terms right but flip-flopped them. If you Supinate, you hit along the outside of the foot/shoe. If you pronate your foot rolls inward along the inside of the shoe/foot.

Only reason I know this is cause I went to a running store and the guy video-taped me barefoot and when we replayed the footage, my right foot rolls in a ridiculous amount. Could have been from an earlier injury, but he then prescribed me the right pair of running shoes for my particular form. I've got a pair of Saucony's with posts inside the arch that help keep me from rolling inward (good cause of the many shin splints/stress fractures I probably have). Because of that the shoe is very heavy. I would say see if a running store is close to you and if they can check your running gait.

If you're around neutral, some shoes are made lighter so that there isnt as much weight to the shoe which can hold you back.

To get a basic picture of what type of foot style you have, when you step out of the bathroom, make sure your feet are damp (not dripping with water) step onto a piece of paper or cardboard and you'll see how the arch is in your foot. If you've got a high arch, you're a supinator, if you're foot is pretty much all on the ground, you're a pronator like me.
Check here (http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-240-319-327-7727-0,00.html). MC also hit it on the head, but check out their article about shoes/types.

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#51644 - Tue Sep 29 2009 18:51 PM Re: Cross Country Shoes [Re: Torch]
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Torch,
Good catch; I've been away from it for a while. Thanks!
Nice technique with the damp feet and paper.
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#51649 - Wed Sep 30 2009 07:05 AM Re: Cross Country Shoes [Re: Guard MC]
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any of you guys in the panhandle looking for shoes should check out freedom sports in panama city beach. the owner is a PJ and will get you hooked up with the right stuff.

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#51716 - Mon Oct 05 2009 20:40 PM Re: Cross Country Shoes [Re: sparky13r]
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Freedom sports? Where is that? Around Pier Park?

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#51743 - Wed Oct 07 2009 17:38 PM Re: Cross Country Shoes [Re: KJH]
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nah man....its right across from the Navy dive school on Thomas Drive...You can't miss it.

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#51752 - Thu Oct 08 2009 00:56 AM Re: Cross Country Shoes [Re: mpetty21]
KJH Offline
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Gotcha, I know exactly where that is.

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#51765 - Fri Oct 09 2009 19:42 PM Re: Cross Country Shoes [Re: KJH]
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Oh well I just got some shoes from Freedom Sports and I gotta say they're awesome. The lady there (which was the guy's daughter) checked out my foot type and I found out that my ankles roll more inward. She got the proper shoes and everything right away. So yeah if you need some shoes I'd definitely head down to Freedom Sports if you live in the PC area.

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