When doing the 1.5 mile run are you allowed to stop after a mile or so and take a short breather while walking? Or must you run/jog the entire time?

Same question for Indoc run evals

Not sure if walking will result in pass or fail, but I do know that if you have to "take a breather" during a 1.5 mile run, no one will take you seriously....and I doubt you will see the next event in the test. We are talking about Special Operations here. If that is your current physical conditioning....and you want to be amoung our nations elite....train some more.

There are some helpful bits of information in this website that will help you physically prepare for the pipeline. I suggest you give those a good look.

OlenSent
If you are interested in being a Special Tactics Operator, you should do a little research.
You want to know about the PAST? Try going to the home page of this site and clicking on the PAST. If so you would see the following:
A11.1.3. 1.5 Mile Run (max time limit 10 minutes 45 seconds): Physical training (PT) clothes and good running shoes are the only required items. The run must be continuous (non-stop). If a member stops anytime during this run, the test will be stopped and considered a failure. Members will be given a 10-minute break prior to the next event. Test should be conducted on a measured running track.


Please note that the run must be continuous (Non-stop). If you stop running, your test is considered a failure and you don't proceed with the rest of the test.

This is your one freeby. Any more posts without an ounce of research on your part will be locked so nobody else has to waste their time doing your work.

Thanks for trying to help Guard MC but apparently you didn't get my question.

I didn't ask about the PAST in general, I simply asked for some clarification on "stopping." Whether it be Stopping the Run or stopping movement totally during the PAST 1.5 mile run

When you walk instead of running you aren't actually stopping. You're slowing down to catch a breath.

Please read my post more carefully.

I hope that clears something up for you. I hope you can clear this up for me.

I would think by continuous they mean running continuous. No walking, no stopping.

Read your posts more carefully? Are you serious? I see a locked thread in your future...

Let's back up a couple steps.


The reply was "The run must be continuous (non-stop)." Think about that. If you "walk instead of run" you are NO LONGER RUNNING, which would indicate that you STOPPED RUNNING and BEGAN WALKING. That would be a failure. Same applies to Indoc. And with that attitude, not only will you be failing your evaluation, it'd be fair to assume you'd be finding another job as well.

You need to step back and consider a couple of things:
-Whether or not the moderators need literary coaching from an 18 year old fresh out of high school
-Whether or not the moderators (who generously donate their time to help guys like you) should waste their time with someone who questions their intelligence--these guys are educated professionals with time on the job.
-Whether a recruiter, their supervisor, the instructor staff for whatever job you *think* you'll be a part of, or the guys who run this site, should waste their time trying to put some kid who is whining about running a continuous mile and a half into one of the most physically demanding courses in the military. Are you going to "stop and take a breather" when Al Qaeda is chasing you down? Do you think the 1.5 mile is going to be the worst of your challenges? Or the 6 mile for that matter? Do you have any idea what you are getting yourself into?

I won't be the first one to tell you that if you have time and lack of maturity to mouth off to the moderators on this forum, especially regarding your ability to run a mile and a half, that 1. You need to get your butt outside and start running, and 2. You have some growing up to do before you think about a big-boy's job in the ARMED FORCES.

If you aren't able to finish a mile and a half, you aren't trying hard enough. I'm a terrible runner, but a mile and a half isn't that tough. Get yourself a straw and SUCK IT UP.

If he can't read my post more carefully just because he's a moderator than how can you expect me to read yours more carefully?

A leader cannot lead until he learns to follow.

I simply asked him to look into my question more carefully because he was saying I did no researching when in fact I must have researched to even ask the question that I asked.

By coming here with your straw and sucking up Guard MC's ***** you have wasted my time that I could be using to train. And never did I once say I couldn't run a 1.5 without stopping. I'm working on the 10k right now. My brother is training for the Past/Indoc and I wanted to clear up this question for him.

For the poster above you, pic, thank you very much for a short and to the point asnwer. That's all I was asking for.

And if this thread gets locked just because I stood up to a moderator then this forum has no use to me. Furthermore i'm sure Guard MC doesn't need you sticking out of his ***** all the time. He's a Pararescueman i'm sure he knows when he's made a mistake and can fend for himself. He has plenty of suck ups (like you) trying to fit that "straw" up his *****. So please do him and yourself a favor by minding yourself.

You're derailing my thread completely and causing me to waste my time. It's people like you that should be banned from the forums.

Come on you need to mature yourself bud.

Olensent,

If you are gathering information for your brother, then he needs to understand that Pararescue and Combat Control is for the big boys. Why isn't he doing the research for himself? But, I really don't think you have a brother training for the PAST or Indoc. I think your trying to climb out of the hole you just dug.

Look man, two things are obvious here. One, you have an attitude problem. There is no room for that in these two career fields. Two, you are not physically prepared for this job and lack the work ethic to get there. Because, instead of wondering how to pass with minimal effort, you would be instead working to achive faster and more impressive times. Because thats what a special operator does. He does not settle for the lazy way. Only perfection.

Please, do us all a favor, reserve that training slot for a guy who is serious about becoming a PJ or Controller. A lot of guys dream about these jobs. So far, you are the only one to be asking for a breather.

I see that you're having the same problems as the other guy has, which is you think you're better than me without knowing anything about me. If you're half the man you act like you are you would know not to underestimate something.

So, with that out. Yes I do have a brother. He finished knee surgery 6 months ago and has gotten out of shape a little but he's ready to work out again (says the doc). We both played football together in highschool and were in TOP physical condition. We won Florida's state championship all three years me and my brother started. He won MVP 2 years in a row. I know this has nothing to do with being a Pararescueman but it is just an example of our team work and athletic abilities.

Just because I am willing to do something for someone else such as asking a question DOES NOT mean that my brother is lazy and not ready for this job. It means we will help each other out as a team.

As for my attitude problem? I see it being no different than yours except im not a self centered egotistical brat that thinks i'm better than someone else. I have faith in humanity and when i'm done training I will be ready for anything that being a Pararescueman has to offer me.

A real warrior is humble and willing to help another, not cause problems such as you. Go spread your ego somewhere else. It's an embarassment to real men.

If you have a problem with me, which it seems you do, you should send me a PM instead of filling my thread with your ego and taking up TE's bandwidth.

Olensent--slowing to a walk to catch a breather can be indicating a necessity to do so or a choice to do so. Whether by choice or out of necessity the PAST standard is just one of several eligibility qualifiers to get a seat in the indoctrination and selection course.

Reliance on meeting PAST by hoping to be able to walk and still make time fails to take into account the training objective of selection indoctrination course is to get canditates to the level of performance needed to participate in and complete all required training required for award of 3-skill level.

Being a football player with history of winning state championship three years consecutive is not evidence of being in top functional fitness. The knee surgery provides sufficient indications he may even be medically disqualified to enlist and if he does have medical qualification to enlist the knee may still be a medical disqualification for performing pararescue/CCT/SOWT/SERE/TACP duties.

You are 18 and know nothing of being a real warrior or of being a leader (which is different from being a supervisor, manager), you making the face-saving appeal suggesting a real warrior is humble and willing to help others is a false analogy. The person needing the conduct and attitude check is you as the past is littered with candidates having the high school accomplishments you boast of who were the first to either SIE or be the first who failed meeting the fitness standards.

There is nobody here thinking they are better than you, but there are plenty here that know the level and quality of functional fitness needed to make it through training and then subsequently needed to perform pararescue/CCT duties. Pertinent to this your question clearly indicates strong probability of not having what is needed to get trained and subsequently to do perform the duties and the follow-up information you disclosed concerning knee injury strengthens that probability closer to a certainty.

The performing the duties of PJ speciality has less to do with your faith in humanity and much to do with you being ready for anything participating in accomplishing each and every mission can throw at you.

OlenSent...see my PM. If his forum has no use for you then leave because I have no use for you or your attitude.

BTW, Guard MC is a STO.

Thanks TE, and thanks Yukon very much for the info. I really appreciate the advice you've given me. Aside from all the rants people have posted in this thread I have still benefitted from this and I just want to thank you all for taking the time to post.

Oh and i'm not 18, i'm 21 =/

Also my brother was cleared on the surgery, it was a minor operation to srub out some unwanted material under his kneecap.

For me posting about my football times, it was only a matter of showing i'm used to team work and understanding when one individual falls, it doesn't just affect him, but everyone else on that team is affected. I in no way was meaning to boast with that.


Thanks again TE, Yukon.

OlenSent,
PM sent.