At meps I got a class 3 flight physical. I did well on everything, but unfortunately I failed the depth perception test. So now it says that CCT is unavailable to me. PJ still is, but not CCT (i'm assuming because ATC is not as well).
Anyways, is there anyway I can retake the depth perception test, or am I stuck with not being able to give it a shot?

Thanks

I failed the first time. They allowed me to retake and I passed. It can be a tough test, but you have to be very patient and do not allow the MEPS nurse to rush you.

I failed the depth perception test and I got a CCT contract. I questioned my recruiter about this because I thought that would disqualify me. He told me that the rules have changed and failure of depth perception is no longer a DQ. His commander confirmed this. He said it changed about 6 months ago. Now I guess he could be wrong and I will be in for a rude awakening shortly, but like I said I have a CCT contract.

Well hopefully they either let me still get the contract, or let me re-take the test. If not I will still go for PJ, but the emt section during pipeline kind of makes me nervous haha. I know I can deal with it, but it may be difficult at first.

If someone that knows anything about this could chime in it would be very appreciated. I have been kind of nervous that something may have been over looked and this will come back to bite me in the butt.

Thank you very much for your quick response, and for clearing that up for me. It is much appreciated!

TE,
Can you provide a reference for this that I can show the flight surgeon in case he isn't aware? My flight physical is coming up, and I'm a little worried about DP.

Will, i emailed you the CCT fact sheet that states no depth perception req.

if anyone else needs this pm me an email address.

I have a feeling a fact sheet I print off of ST.com is not going to be enough for the flight surgeon, since many folks I know are getting tested on DP for their Class III.

EDIT: I found the AFI, 48-123 Vol 3, dated 5 June 06.
States CCT is required to have functional depth perception for their duties as a scanner.

Depth perception IS required for CCT based on JTAC qualification. This from CMSgt HY at AETC...glad the question was asked so it could be cleared up.

I'll try to update the fact sheet ASAP.

I just enlisted today and they said that Depth Perception was no longer required for Combat Control. My recruiter is going to submit my PAST results and book me for CCT.

I knew I had failed Depth Perception and I read this thread saying it was required. Needless to say, I was definitely stressing out about whether I would be able to book a CCT job. I even bought a "Magic Eye" book and spent some time with it incase I should have to try and retake the test.

I'll notify the CCT careerfield manager that this is happening...according to him, depth perception IS required for CCT as stated above in this thread. And according to the medical AFI dated Jun 06, depth perception is required for CCT...I've seen no messages or interim changes that state otherwise. I've gone over the AF aerospace medical services website and have seen nothing changing this.

I'd be curious as to the documentation the MEPS docs and/or recruiters are using that says depth perception is not required for CCT.

Hmm... I haven't seen CCT on an offical contract yet, so hopefully I am not being set up for major disappointment.

Apparently, the last thing I still need to go through is a phone interview with a Combat Controller early next week. I'll post an update after that.

My recruiter booked me for Combat Control finally. My ship date for basic is November 24th 2009. 5 months seems like a long time right now, but I've waited this long through the process...

I am still a bit nervous about this miscommunication regarding the depth perception requirement. My recruiter and my recruiter's boss have both confirmed that depth perception is no longer required. They said that it is a new change and all the old documentation still lists it as a requirement, even though it isn't anymore.

Do you recommend a course of action on my part? Should I ask to see a draft of my final contract? When can I breathe easy knowing my CCT slot is secure?

This is what I received from the AETC Surgeon General, via the PJ Functional Manager:

In general, the following types of eye surgeries are waiverable on a case by case evaluation after 12 months of post-op without complications:

PRK, LASEK, Epi-LASEK, WFG-PRK, LASIK, WFG-LASIK,

The following vision requirements are generally not waiverable:

Myopia < -8.00

Hyperopia < +0.50

Astigmatism < 3.00

Anisometropia < 2.50

Uncorrected Vision Far 20/200

Corrected to 20/20

Uncorrected Near Vision 20/50

Corrected to 20/20

Normal Color Vision

Normal Depth Perception


AFI 48-123 Vol 3, Chap 1.3
AFI 48-123 Vol 2, Atch 2
AFI Vol 3, Atch 5 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.6, 5.8

I would ask your recruiter and his boss where they are getting their information, as it appears it is different from AETC and both the CCT functional manager and PJ functional manager. Additional confirmation that DP is required comes from the Special Tactics recruiting liaison.

Dang TE sounds like I should just go to a AF recruiter or just put the package in anyways.

I had failed my original depth perception test at meps then found a local eye doctor that performed vision therapy. VT is kind of expensive if you don't have vision insurance but if you want to improve your depth perception it can really help. During my class III I passed the depth perception with flying colors.

Yea i looked into Vision Therapy but unfortunately the AF doesnt cover that or offer it. Its 4 grand.

Ok, I asked my recruiter and here is the documentation I was given supposedly showing that depth perception isn't required. I can't really make heads or tails of it though.
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Thu Jun 18 14:10:15PM 2009

PERSONAL DATA - PRIVACY ACT OF 1974 (USC 552a)
J O B B A N K P R E R E Q U I S I T E S

EAA: G43 JOB AFSC: -1C231 JOB NAME: -1C231.USAF.EM.CLASS.1

EDUCATION LEVEL
ALGEBRA N ACROPHOBIA N NO PEACE CORPS N
TRIGONOMETRY N CLAUSTROPHOBIA N VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE N
GEOMETRY N ENTOMOPHOBIA N
BIOLOGY N FEAR OF BLOOD N MINIMUM HEIGHT 64
PHYSICS N FEAR OF CONFINED SPACES N MINIMUM WEIGHT
CHEMISTRY N FEAR OF FIRE N FINGERS
ENGLISH N FEAR OF GUNS Y NO ALIEN STATUS Y
TYPING N FEAR OF HEIGHTS N SENSITIVE JOB CODE B
PYROPHOBIA N

SPECIAL QUALS REQ'D
DEPTH OVER 17 YEARS OLD 00
SPECIAL TESTS / SCORE
COLOR VISION Y COMBAT EXCLUSION AFSC M 1 EDPT 000
CORRECTABLE ALLOWED 2 DLAB RQMT
AIDED VISUAL ACTIVITY 0 PHYSICAL TYPE N
UNAIDED VISUAL ACTIVITY 0 P MAJ OFFENSE CONV
VISION CORRECTION TYPE 0 V THEFT CONVICTION
SOFT CONTACTS WITHOUT PROBLEMS NON MINOR CONVICTION
CORR DISTANT VISION LEFT 20 P U L H E S X CIV COURT CONFINEMENT
CORR DISTANT VISION RIGHT 20 1 1 1 1 1 1 K
CORR NEAR VISION LEFT 20
CORR NEAR VISION RIGHT 20 SPEECH IMPEDIMENT Y APTITUDE AREA: G
UNCORR DISTANT VISION LEFT 200 SPEECH ABILITY 2 MINIMUM SCORE: 44
UNCORR DISTANT VISION RIGHT 100 EMOTIONAL INSTABILITY Y AQE INDICATOR: 0 UNCORR NEAR VISION LEFT 0 TMJ DISORDER
UNCORR NEAR VISION RIGHT 0

'N' MEANS ITEM DOES NOT APPLY
'Y' MEANS ITEM IS A REQUIREMENT OR A DISQUALIFYING FACTOR
ALL OTHER ENTRIES ARE MINIMUM REQUIRED VALUES

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I'll be dealing with the DP and Class III on Monday. I guess all I can do is pay attention to what I am supposed to do, and take my time. I never had a problem catching a baseball, or predicting where a thrown object was going...hopefully the test isn't difficult if you never had one in a while. Last time my eyes were checked was about 8 years ago, and they never changed...think I have 20/40. Can't be any worse than that.

I'll post whatever information they tell me and give me to help you all out but it looks like you have it pretty much covered.