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#26496 - Mon Jun 28 2004 10:33 AM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
AFRecruiter Member Registered: Mon Feb 09 2004 Posts: 168	Lars, Was the time the same without the fins?
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#26497 - Mon Jun 28 2004 11:54 AM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
SSgt_Brack Member Registered: Mon Dec 08 2003 Posts: 112	[]Lars, Was the time the same without the fins? [/] I hope not, 1500 meters without fins in 34 minutes will be tight for me. Guess I need to start swimming even more.
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#26498 - Wed Jun 30 2004 09:23 AM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
lars New Member Registered: Mon Jun 21 2004 Posts: 7	It was still 34 minutes. freestyle or side-stroke.
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#26499 - Wed Jun 30 2004 10:59 AM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
SSgt_Brack Member Registered: Mon Dec 08 2003 Posts: 112	Going to get clarification from my MPF as to what the new standards are.
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#26500 - Wed Jun 30 2004 11:50 AM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
TE PJ/Operator/Admin/RKC Registered: Thu Oct 17 2002 Posts: 3597 Loc: Nellis	As I said earlier...the change is not official yet...this was a "practice" PAST. The new standards (when implemented) will require fins for the prior service PAST per the CCT fact sheet... _________________________ TE Pararescueman/Webmaster/Administrator/RKC The real test comes when all strength has fled, and men must produce victory on will alone...
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#26501 - Wed Jun 30 2004 12:39 PM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
Diablo Member Registered: Sun Jan 18 2004 Posts: 152 Loc: Eglin AFB, FL	TE, Is it going to be the same for the Prior Service PJ/PAST?
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#26502 - Wed Jun 30 2004 13:00 PM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
TE PJ/Operator/Admin/RKC Registered: Thu Oct 17 2002 Posts: 3597 Loc: Nellis	Not at this time. There is discussion about changing the PS PJ PAST, but for now its the same point system for all. _________________________ TE Pararescueman/Webmaster/Administrator/RKC The real test comes when all strength has fled, and men must produce victory on will alone...
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#26503 - Wed Jun 30 2004 15:56 PM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
SSgt_Brack Member Registered: Mon Dec 08 2003 Posts: 112	[]As I said earlier...the change is not official yet...this was a "practice" PAST. The new standards (when implemented) will require fins for the prior service PAST per the CCT fact sheet... [/] Thank you.
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#26504 - Thu Jul 01 2004 09:11 AM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
lars New Member Registered: Mon Jun 21 2004 Posts: 7	Could they have then given me the wrong test? The test I took was not supposed to be a practice PAST. Everything else that I have heard says the test is with fins and is not even in effect yet. The test I took was the new standards and without fins. Either way I am still trying to improve, but if I took a harder test than I had to it is a little discouraging.
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#26505 - Thu Jul 01 2004 09:43 AM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
TE PJ/Operator/Admin/RKC Registered: Thu Oct 17 2002 Posts: 3597 Loc: Nellis	Whomever "they" are are WRONG...have them contact me directly if they have questions...bottom line, your test was not "official"...ergo, your enlistment may not be legal... _________________________ TE Pararescueman/Webmaster/Administrator/RKC The real test comes when all strength has fled, and men must produce victory on will alone...
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#26506 - Thu Jul 01 2004 11:10 AM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
lars New Member Registered: Mon Jun 21 2004 Posts: 7	I'm already in the Air Force so there are no problems with my enlistment. I know that I need to do the PAST test so i can cross-train. "They" are the cadre at the Combat Control schoolhouse at Lackland. I don't mean to be rude, I'm just trying to find out why I had to take a test that everyone else says is wrong. Prior to the day I tested they told me that the test was to be done with fins. Only about five minutes before I got in the water did anyone say different.
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#26507 - Thu Jul 01 2004 12:13 PM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
TE PJ/Operator/Admin/RKC Registered: Thu Oct 17 2002 Posts: 3597 Loc: Nellis	"They" are mis-informed...have them double check with Mr. Norrad and/or the 720th STG. _________________________ TE Pararescueman/Webmaster/Administrator/RKC The real test comes when all strength has fled, and men must produce victory on will alone...
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#26508 - Tue Jul 06 2004 06:40 AM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
lars New Member Registered: Mon Jun 21 2004 Posts: 7	Thanks for the help. I'll do that.
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#26509 - Tue Jul 06 2004 12:50 PM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
SSgt_Brack Member Registered: Mon Dec 08 2003 Posts: 112	[]As I said earlier...the change is not official yet...this was a "practice" PAST. The new standards (when implemented) will require fins for the prior service PAST per the CCT fact sheet... [/] There seems to be some confusion about this up at MPF. Is there a concrete reference I can point to that states I need to have a documented PAST by the current 500 meter/1.5 mile standard?
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#26510 - Tue Jul 06 2004 13:53 PM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
AFRecruiter Member Registered: Mon Feb 09 2004 Posts: 168	I would ask to see a message, or instruction, that states the new one is in effect. This also effects us in Recruiting Service and we haven't received anything stating the old PAST isn't valid.
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#26511 - Tue Jul 06 2004 15:46 PM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
TE PJ/Operator/Admin/RKC Registered: Thu Oct 17 2002 Posts: 3597 Loc: Nellis	Is your MPF saying the new test is in effect? Agree w/AF Recruiter, ask for a message change...I'll triple check with Wayne Norrad tomorrow... _________________________ TE Pararescueman/Webmaster/Administrator/RKC The real test comes when all strength has fled, and men must produce victory on will alone...
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#26512 - Tue Jul 06 2004 16:02 PM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
SSgt_Brack Member Registered: Mon Dec 08 2003 Posts: 112	[]Is your MPF saying the new test is in effect? Agree w/AF Recruiter, ask for a message change...I'll triple check with Wayne Norrad tomorrow... [/] They are not sure which standard. I am ready to submit my retraining packet if it is by the old standard. I would have to take a another PAST by the new standards if they are in place already.
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#26513 - Thu Jul 08 2004 13:44 PM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
TE PJ/Operator/Admin/RKC Registered: Thu Oct 17 2002 Posts: 3597 Loc: Nellis	Just got confirmation from Wayne Norrad, it is not official yet...the latest official guidance is the CCT PAST message located here: http://www.specialtactics.com/cctpastmessage.shtml _________________________ TE Pararescueman/Webmaster/Administrator/RKC The real test comes when all strength has fled, and men must produce victory on will alone...
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#26514 - Thu Jul 08 2004 14:43 PM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
SSgt_Brack Member Registered: Mon Dec 08 2003 Posts: 112	[]Just got confirmation from Wayne Norrad, it is not official yet...the latest official guidance is the CCT PAST message located here: htp://www.specialtactics.com/cctpastmessage.shtml [/] Do appreciate it.
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#26515 - Fri Jul 09 2004 06:38 AM Re: Took a practice PAST by the new x-train standards.
lars New Member Registered: Mon Jun 21 2004 Posts: 7	Thanks for the help. I appreciate it.
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